361! (approximate number of games=1.4*10^768) 3^361 (approximate number of board states=1.7*10^172). the first of these is a *real* big number. there are probably more go games than there are atoms in the universe. * The 2nd is a *real* big number, as well. Number of atoms in the universe 10^86. * But how about Quantums? :) -- Mousheng