Re: computer-go: Applying Moore's Law to Computer Go

["Gary Boos" <gboos@xxxxxxx>]

WRT the BIG IDEA  That is what I hope is true.
(I'm an ex-chess player and ex chess programmer).
        Gary

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From: Sam Sloan <sloan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 5:16 AM
Subject: Re: computer-go: Applying Moore's Law to Computer Go


>I disagree.
>
>It was predictable that the strength of chess playing programs would
>increase as the speed of computers increased because by the mid-1980s we
>had solved the basic problems of how to write a good chess playing program.
>I competed in the World Computer Chess Championship in Cologne, Germany in
>1986 and the programs we had then work the same as now. The programs now
>are faster, more efficient and contain fewer bugs but they are basically
>the same as in 1986. The main reason they are stronger now is the CPUs run
>faster.
>
>In the case of go, nobody has come up with the idea yet of how to write a
>strong playing program. We do not even have the basic algorithms yet, so
>how can we make them work better or more efficiently?
>
>Until somebody finally comes up with THE BIG IDEA, I do not believe there
>will be any significant improvement in the strength of go playing programs.
>
>I am in Japan now. I attended the 10th Annual World Amateur Go Pairs
>Championship in Tokyo on Sunday and met for the first time many of the
>people I have featured on my web site.
>
>Sam Sloan
>
>http://www.samsloan.com/umezawa.htm
>
>At 00:48 99/11/14 -0600, Clay ChipSmith wrote:
>>Applying Moore's Law to Computer Go raises guarded hope.
>>
>>(See http://webopedia.internet.com/TERM/M/Moores_Law.html for a definition
>>of Moore's Law).
>>
>>Computer Go strength grew 1 rank each 20 months
>>during the last decade.  I reckon this trend will continue
>>in part for the foreseeable future.  Particularly, let us
>>speculate growth to continue 1 rank each 18 to 30 months
>>for another 2 decades.  For example, in 2020 Computer
>>Go strength could reach 4k* to 1d* (IGS scale).
>>
>>The profound scaleability of cmos is the foundation
>>of Moore's Law.  Computer Go had both hardware and
>>software dependency for strength growth.  Moore's
>>Law may cover the hardware side of Computer Go
>>strength dependency.  A combination of programming
>>efficiency and ever increasing colaboration may cover
>>the software side of Computer Go strength dependency.
>>
>>Best Wishes, Clay ChipSmith ><>
>>
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