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RE: computer-go: question -- Oracle of Life and Death FPGA



If you run only your Go program in an OS like Win98, the average usage
of the CPU not by your program and Idle is about 0.1%.

A specially designed computer to play go will be the next step, since we
don´t had a good enough program yet.

Wang Sai To

> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Kurt Thorn Perkins [mailto:thorn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Enviado el: domingo 12 de diciembre de 1999 14:37
> Para: computer-go@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Asunto: Re: computer-go: question -- Oracle of Life and Death FPGA
> 
> 
> Many FPGAs excel at table lookups (that being how many of 
> their internal
> calculations are arrived at), so I believe they would be more 
> of a fast library
> lookup.  Just a side thought.
> 
> You're right about FPGA clock speeds.  However, unless there 
> is an advantage
> in having a dynamically reprogrammable piece of hardware in a 
> design, the
> normal path is to use an FPGA to prototype, then take the 
> ASIC design file
> and ship it off to someone to actually produce silicon that 
> matches it.  The
> final piece of hardware is usually an order of magnitude 
> faster than the FPGA
> is capable of.  On the other hand, while it is cheap 
> (relatively) and easy to get
> customized silicon made, it is usually with minimum orders of 
> several kiloparts.
> Perhaps if someone knows a university with access to protofab 
> facilities? (My
> school was just starting to get the equipment when I left 
> this past spring...
> likely
> another year or two before its up.)
> 
> Now, a question (I am almost certain its been asked, but I 
> can't find the answer
> in the archives... probably just not doing it right).  The 
> primary goal of most
> efforts seems to be writing better software and tuning it to 
> run as fast as
> possible
> on standard computers.  Most of these computers are also 
> running other programs
> that eat up cycle time, such as the OS or supporting programs 
> (just ask anyone
> who has run a program in an OS like Linux both with and 
> without the GUI).
> Does anyone believe there would be an advantage to designing 
> a computer
> that has only one goal... playing Go?  Some of the required 
> items to support
> input and output could be relegated to microcontrollers or a 
> support processor
> of lower caliber, with the main processor (Alpha, PIII, Lego 
> computer) providing
> most of its cycle time to evaluation of the board.
> 
> A alternative to this might be an SBC that is designed to 
> work in the PCI bus, so
> that you could have this card doing the evaluations of the 
> board, and sending
> the results to a normal PC/Mac to handle the user interface issues.
> 
> The two largest problems I see with this is the time of 
> designing and producing
> a system along these lines initially, and that I don't 
> believe it would be
> permitted
> in the Ing cup. :)
> 
> So, what am I missing here?  I know there has to be something.
> 
>   Kurt
> 
>