> As we expected it is a win for the first player with 25 I havent expected that. It can only be 24 moku. White will pass after the first stone then there are only 24 empty points. So that that answer is wrong. Have fun Wolfgang -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ NEU: Mit GMX ins Internet. Rund um die Uhr für 1 ct/ Min. surfen!