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Re: [computer-go] Good-citation



chrilly wrote:

The best I have found in my library is:

Cho Chikun: Go A complete introduction to the game, Kiseido Publishing
Comp., Tokyo, Second print 2002,
In this standard-introduction book by one of the strongest Go-players there
is an own chapter "Go and Computers". p.116-119.
It is too long to type all here. I just write the end.

"In conclusion, it will be a long time before computers are able to play go
at the same level that has been achieved for chess and checkers. Major
Hi,

One aspect hasn't been mentioned yet in this thread AFAICS: it is not the case that go programs are not playing well but that people are. By a fairly natural measurement, the best go programs are as much better than a beginner (human) then the best the best chess programs are better than a beginner.

This measurement is as follows: pick your favorite number p between 0.5 and 1, say p = 0.75 . We say that player A is better than player B by one rank if A beats B with probability p. With this definition, we define ranks starting with the beginner level up to the best players' level (human or computer). So the distance of two players is their diffence in rank. The level of a player is his/her/its distance from a beginner. Picking a different p will give a different scale of course but that doesn't change the rest of the argument.

The distance between a 30 kyu and a pro dan player is much larger than the distance between a beginner in chess and the world champion. But the best go and chess programs are of the same level.

Not my idea unfortunately 8-).

Best,

Geza

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