Re: [computer-go] 2nd KGS Computer Go Tournament

["William M. Shubert" <wms@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 22:04 +0100, Nick Wedd wrote:
> >I believe that the GTP spec is fairly clear about final_status_list. In
> >the kgsGtp document I only try to provide annotations to the GTP spec,
> >explaining which commands are used and why, I don't try to repeat the
> >full spec on each command.
> 
> Where can I find the full spec?

I have a saved URL listing it at
http://www.tgiphil.com/computergo/gtp-specification.htm but when I just
tried to look there, the server seems to be down. If there is a more
permanent location for the spec, somebody please provide it!

> >I'm really puzzled by this separation between "playing" and "scoring."
> >If you ran a human tournament, and some players were totally unable to
> >tell you which stones were alive and dead at the end of the game, would
> >you as the TD go and sit next to them after each game and figure it out
> >for them, then tally up their score?
> 
> Yes.  Indeed, I was there to do precisely that at the London Open late 
> last year.  In fact weak players rarely asked me to help them, 
> preferring to mangle things in their own ways.  But I was asked to count 
> their game by two strong Chinese players, who did not know how Japanese 
> counting worked.  I don't think anyone would suggest that they should 
> have been penalised for not knowing Japanese scoring.

Well, this is a little different, in that their question probably wasn't
about which groups are alive or dead, but about how to count up the
points after deciding on the living/dead groups, but point taken all the
same.

> >I was under the assumption that the current system, where you have to
> >babysit and enter final scores for some programs, wasn't acceptable. If
> >it is, then that's fine, I'll leave things as is, but of course the big
> >drawback is that there is no chance of ever having a 100% automated
> >tournament.
> 
> I am happy to babysit.  It is the least arduous of my duties.

All right, then I guess things will stay as-is. Thanks for the answer.

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