Re: computer-go: Recorded games with dead stones marked

[David Stafford <david_stafford@xxxxxxxxx>]

I would be very interested in these games.  If you like, I am willing
to host them on my web site to share.

-David


--- "Nicol N. Schraudolph" <compgo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > We ran across one paper which claimed there are recorded IGS games
> with 
> > the dead stones marked.  This would obviously make point-by-point 
> > scoring much easier.  Alas, we can't seem to find any such files. 
> Any 
> > clues?
> 
> Back in late 1994 I convinced Tim Casey to record dead stones or
> territory
> (forgot which) in IGS' SGF records; what you're looking for is IGS
> games
> from '95 or '96 (before it went commercial).  I think I have about
> 75'000
> of those, which I'd be happy to share.
> 
> I have tried repeatedly to get NNGS to do the same, going as far as
> sending in patches against current server versions, twice -- alas
> nobody ever seems to have bothered incorporating them into the
> running
> server code.  If any of you know any go server admins, *please* get
> them to record dead stones or territory!  It's trivial to do (one
> line
> of server code would suffice) and would make the game records so much
> more useful for machine learning.
> 
> A word of warning though: a lot of go server games (I guess about
> 10-15%)
> are actually mis-scored.  To get good training data, you have to run
> the
> scored game records through a scoring program, then throw out the
> ones
> where program and game record disagree, say, by more than a single
> point.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> -- 
>     Dr. Nicol N. Schraudolph                
> http://n.schraudolph.org/
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>     CH-8032 Zuerich, Switzerland                tel:      -1-251-3661
> 
> 
> 


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