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Re: [computer-go] GTP and Tourney in SmartGo 1.4



Even if GTP is better than GMP, does anyone think about use a new XML format instead of GTP, it will be much ease to read, there is also a lot of programming tools for it.

Jimmy Lu

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nick Wedd" <nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "computer-go" <computer-go@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: [computer-go] GTP and Tourney in SmartGo 1.4


> In message <A424A906-7294-11D8-A7AD-000A959D091C@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Marco 
> Scheurer <marco@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes
> 
> >I'd like our company to sponsor a Computer Go tournament for its 10th 
> >anniversary (in fall 2004). It it happens it would be for GTP engines, 
> >and would also be broadcasted on a server, possibly with a live video 
> >stream, if anyone cares.
> >
> >Any advice about rules, the setup? What is needed to make a tournament 
> >big? No entrance fee and prize money?
> 
> My unorganised thoughts follow.
> 
> Rule set is unlikely to be an issue.
> 
> High entrance fee certainly deters entrants.
> Low, or subsidised, travel costs encourage them.
> Prizes encourage those few who have a chance to win them.
> 
> Insisting on GTP will exclude most competitors, as they don't support 
> it.  I have heard that it is hard to implement, with two line-feeds 
> having a different meaning from one line-feed (my personal opinion is 
> that significant whitespace is a really stupid idea.)
> 
> About five years ago, when many programs claimed to support GMP, the 
> chance of two such programs actually being able to play an entire game 
> by GMP was rather small.  If two of your entrants fail to get their game 
> started, or play part of a game and then go to sleep, do you propose 
> investigating which one is guilty of not doing the GTP stuff right, and 
> giving the win to the other?
> 
> Most computer Go tournaments require each entrant to be accompanied by a 
> human, to operate it.  Allowing people to send in a program, to be 
> operated by a volunteer, will encourage weak entrants.  Few good 
> programs will accept this arrangement, because of fear of theft.
> 
> Nick
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