Re: [computer-go] how to use GTP in place of GMP

[Don Dailey <drd@xxxxxxx>]

Heikki,

I  think manual  play is  a good  idea.  It  might seem  to be  a step
backwards, but the human element is hugely enhanced by this.

Years ago in computer chess it used to be that all the program authors
met for a tournament and you  sat down with your opponent and operated
manually.  You chatted the whole  time and enjoyed the experience.  In
later years, you  would often be sitting opposite  some Joe Shmoe that
didn't know anything about the  program, the real author couldn't make
it, he  was just  an operater provided  by the  tournament organizers.
That wan't  much fun.   I could  have stayed home  and let  some "Joe"
operate my  program.  I can't see it  being nearly as fun  to sit back
while the computers are silently working in the background.

I guess go is played at a faster pace most of the time.  So maybe it's
not as enjoyable and there is  less time to interact with the opponent
program author.  I've never done a computer go tournament.

- Don





   On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 09:30:30PM +0100, Nick Wedd wrote:
   > 
   > I have been assuming a working Windows network.  The sponsors are 
   > (unfortunately) more likely to provide that than a working Unix network.

   Well, a network is - almost by definition - independent of the OS of the
   machines connected to it. Windows has been able to provide TCP/IP
   networking at least since '95, and various Unixen have always had
   TCP/IP more or less built in.  Today it is difficult to find a PC
   without a network port.

   Still, the point of a tournament is to allow all sorts of programs to
   compete. It may easier if those programs can talk directly to each
   other, or to a centralized referee program. But if that is not possible,
   I think it would be proper to offer a way out, even by manual play on a
   board, with human operators (yuck!) on both side making the moves. Such
   a setup is more prone to mistakes, but programs opting for that should
   bear the risk of such.

   -H



   -- 
   Heikki Levanto   "In Murphy We Turst"     heikki (at) lsd (dot) dk

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