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Re: [computer-go] Re: Sharing Secrets



---- Original Message ----- From: "John Tromp" <John.Tromp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

That's misleading:) You claim that although PRNG may be very good at
producing random numbers, the latter are no good for Zobrist hashing.
I'm not convinced:(
Very easy to understand. Random numbers do not guarantee that when you XOR a few a few times with eachother, that not the same hashes appear. This is basic Zobrist hashing knowledge. No serious Chess programmer uses "just random", they optimize the heck out of their random's using methods that Arthur and Erik already explained.

I've never seen any evidence or discussion of this. I certainly cannot
imagine that specially chosen 60-bit numbers are better than randomly
chosen 64-bit values. So I see no basis for your claim above.
I have never said that hand-picked 60-bit values outperform 64-bit random values.

I said that hand-picked 64-bit values outperform 64-bit random values.
And already 2 people confirmed this just now.
What's so difficult to understand about that, and do you think Erik & Arthur are doing nonsensical things when they bother with the Hamming distance of their Hash keys?


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