[computer-go] Oh no...possible language superiority storm ahead...

["Jim O'Flaherty, Jr." <jim_oflaherty_jr@xxxxxxxxx>]

Vincent,

Please refer to earlier messages talking about languages and speed.  Apparently your cached data
about Java is quite stale.  Time to do a refresh.  ;^)

No point in starting a language *war* thingy.  You use what you use.  He uses what he uses. 
Criticizing someone else's choice of language seems quite trite.


Jim


PS. JDK/JRE 1.4 or later Java code is now getting numeric performance on par with or exceeding
almost all C/C++ compilers excepting Intel's.


--- Vincent Diepeveen <diep@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Wait a minute, you guys want to use the 3 times slower JAVA platform for
> game programming?
> 
> You are not serious are you?
> 
> JAVA is great for connectivity and a quick programming of internet tools
> and for server tools and interfaces.
> 
> But for the pure speed, i must refer this inferior compiler technology to
> the outdated desk.
> 
> A complex program will be a factor 3 slower with it at least.
> 
> In fact small 30 line programs already are to my amazement not seldom up to
> a factor 3 slower.
> 
> 
> 
> At 19:49 8-11-2004 -0200, Mark Boon wrote:
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: computer-go-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:computer-go-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Stuart A Yeates
> >> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 18:58
> >> To: computer-go
> >> Subject: Re: [computer-go] Pattern Matcher
> >>
> >>
> >> Mark Boon wrote:
> >>
> >> > I would be really interested if it would give a significant speedup.
> >>  > In Java it's probably even more practical than in C, as it has the
> >> > built-in capability of doing run-time compilation of the code and
> >>  > load the compiled class run-time to replace the existing one.
> >>
> >> This is not true in the general case.
> >>
> >> While it is true that the Java standard libraries have a method for
> >> calling the compiler, an implementation is not required to have a
> >> compiler to be called. This is the key difference between Sun's JRE
> >> (Java Runtime Envirnoment) which doesn't have a compiler and Sun's JDK
> >> (Java Development Kit) which does.
> >
> >That could be. I did something like this some years ago, although it was for
> >a more mundane application for a bank. You don't necessarily need the JDK,
> >just the 'tools' library.
> >
> >>
> >> Indeed, with the recent release of GNU's GCJ (Gnu Compiler for Java),
> >> it's going to be increasingly frequent for the Java code to actually be
> >> running as a pre-compiled binary executable.
> >>
> >> cheers
> >> stuart
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