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Re: cotton balls & elephants (was Re: [computer-go] Pattern matching-rectification & update)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marco Scheurer" <marco@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "computer-go" <computer-go@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:39 AM
Subject: OT: cotton balls & elephants (was Re: [computer-go] Pattern
matching- rectification & update)


> It's off topic and I understand your point, but at some point speed
> works better than hardness and firing very fast objects does work quite
> well against armor.

I used a methaphor, don't tresat is as a concrete situation.
My methaphor served to illustrate the need for a paradigm shift.

As far as I can see, existing search techniques do not approach human
performance.
I understand totally ZERO of much of the explanation of those techniques but
my impression is that they are rather fruitless to arrive at a 9p level or
above, and that is of course what we all should be aiming for.

I can explain what I mean. The search techniques I see described talk about
"guaranteed way to solve a problem". To prove that a certain sequence wins a
group, etc. I am not sure that people work the same way, that they are 100%
accurate and certain.
I suspect that when you trade accuracy for search depth, you can "see"
things that will utterly exterminate a human opponent because it will be too
late at the time the human sees the danger.  The computer should make very
many small unsettled groups and use a tactical advantage.

(I played against my pattern system BTW and it made many tiny groups and
utterly slaughtered me, it connected everything and all my stuff was cut).


> kind of soft, their "benefit" being that they vaporize and burn through
> armor?

Off topic,and no.

They work solely by kinetic energy and vaporize and burn only when they have
arrived inside the tank.

You are perhaps mistaken with a shaped charge, which essentially is a hot
gas ejected as a pencil-shape into a certain direction.

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