Re: [computer-go] KGS Tournaments: Format

[Don Dailey <drd@xxxxxxx>]

Hi Christian,

I asked Bill Shubert about 9x9 ratings when computer ratings via
kgsGtp first came out.   He thought there would be SQL issues,
implying that what SQL engine he uses wouldn't be able to handle
it comfortably. 

- Don



   I think the "big issue" in this case ( for me at least ) is the fact
   that not all of the programs entered in the test tournament can
   actually play 19x19. I know my program won't be able to..and I don't
   really plan on making it possible. But that shouldn't stop there being
   19x19 tournaments of course.

   What I really wanted to say is that for me a handicapped 9x9
   tournament would be interesting ( because of the relative weakness of
   my program ;) ). The problem is of course how to set the handicaps
   without a proper rank...which in turn is impossible to achieve without
   playing 19x19. I know that a 9x9-rank is much to ask, but it would be
   nice. *hint-hint* :)

   /Christian

   On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 17:03:55 -0800, Bill Shubert <wms@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
   > Yes, it is only a technical requirement I suppose. If there is a real
   > need for a way to set arbitrary ranks, perhaps I will do it.
   > 
   > But the more I think about it, I think that I was wrong when I listed it
   > as a "big problem." Anybody with a GTP-enabled engine who wants to enter
   > a tournament could just leave it running on KGS for a day or two and get
   > a rank that way, after all. Probably more of a "small issue" than a "big
   > problem."
   > 
   > On Mon, 2005-03-07 at 16:35, Gunnar FarnebXck wrote:
   > > Bill wrote:
   > > > There is one big problem with handicap and McMahon tournaments: Every
   > > > player needs a rank. GnuGo and Go++ both have KGS ranks, and a few
   > > > others...but requiring solid ranks will limit the number of players who
   > > > can possibly play in the tournament quite a bit. Maybe good to have some
   > > > handicap/McMahon tournaments, but having some non-handicap is nice too,
   > > > to allow more players.
   > >
   > > I assume KGS rank is a technical requirement. Otherwise it would be
   > > possible to assign tournament ranks from some combination of KGS rank,
   > > results in earlier tournaments, self ranking, and arbitrary decisions
   > > by the tournament director.
   > >
   > > /Gunnar
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