Re: [computer-go] I know we disagree,but I choose to do nothing about it.

[David G Doshay <ddoshay@xxxxxxx>]

On 22, Jul 2005, at 4:18 PM, Nick Wedd wrote:

> I thought, I still think, that it is you who advocates mandating it. 
> You don't propose mandating it by requiring programs to respond in 
> some way to the "kgs-genmove_cleanup" command;  you advocate 
> effectively mandating it by changing the rules of the tournaments so 
> that programs that don't respond appropriately to it will lose most of 
> their games as a consequence.
>
> And I am not happy about this.  Or maybe I still don't understand.
I feel exactly the same way. This proposal promotes an "optional" 
protocol over correct understanding of the game situation, and if the 
program does correctly understand the board but does not participate in 
the protocol it looses. Not much of an option from my perspective, even 
if I ignore my other problems with the suggested protocol.

And because any bot that chooses not to score correctly the first time 
can force this protocol upon the opponent, it is not much different 
than a change in the rules of Go. Or maybe I don't understand either.

While I regret that manual resolution is more work for any tournament 
organizer, I think that Nick has done a wonderful job because he has 
always asked both programmers if they accept his analysis before 
pushing "the big button." Given the state of Computer Go and the 
complexity of the game, I can see no sensible choice other than human 
intervention when these disagreements happen between programs.



Cheers,
David


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