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Re: new incredibly strong go program?
This program is quite weak. It doesn't understand eyes or
simple ladders. I played a game against Many Faces and
MF won by 192. See attached.
David Fotland
At 01:15 PM 1/27/99 -0800, Mousheng Xu wrote:
>
>At 01:00 PM 1/27/99 -0800, Dan Stromberg wrote:
>>Mousheng Xu wrote:
>>
>>What is this "Golden Egg" and "Wuzi"? Are they games? Are they go
programs?
>
> They are both games. "Golden Egg" is a go program, and "Wuzi" is
>"five-in-a-row". The guy (Luming Wang) once posted in a chinese go web site
>that he had a igs 3-4d* program. It beated rank xxx players with what
>ratio, beated HandTalk with what ratio, ... then a few days later, he said
>his program was about 3-4k. "Goegg.exe" is weaker than his best program for
>this & that reasons.
> Up to this point, I took it as a joke. I didn't even bother evaluate
>"goegg.exe" (attached). Let me know if you find anything interesting.
> I don't know where you got the news.
>
>-- Mousheng Xu
>
>>
>>If there's a unix version, I'd be far more likely to compile it myself and
>run
>>it there. I strongly dislike Microsoft.
>>
>>>
>>> Hi, all
>>> Hopefully this time I can send you guys the attached file.
>>> Two files:
>>> 1. goegg.exe: A simple version of Golden Egg. Since the first
>>> Golden egg
>>> is a unix version, I used two hours to translate it to the DOS version.
>All
>>> the help
>>> and the menu things are gone. Even the algrithm is a little bit simpler.
>>> 2. five.exe: A wuzi program. The Golden Go has a later
version of
>>> five.exe.
>>> This program can run through network. It is not very strong because it has
>>> only
>>> 3 levels(Golden Go contains a 10 levels wuzi) but it is good. Try it.
>>>
>>> Now, anyone doesn't want to stay any longer can leave. Maybe
>>> Fuming123,
>>> Maybe other guys, doesn't matter, just reply this email, I will delete
your
>>> name from
>>> The email list and won't bother you again. At the same time, if you leave,
>>> don't send email to the email list or me again please.
>>> Those who like to study the computer go with me please send me
>>> your idea or your request. I will give out all the core codes if you
>>> request. I will not provide the code related to the GUI because it is
>your
>>> own work to do. My GUI is so ugly that I don't want to ruin anyone's baby.
>>> Luming
>
(;
GM[1]FF[4]VW[]AP[Many Faces of Go:10.0]
SZ[19]
HA[0]
ST[1]
PB[The Many Faces of Go]
PW[Go Egg]
DT[1999-01-27]
KM[5.5]
RU[Japanese]
RE[B+192]
C[Pass val -5.5, best val 28.0
];B[qd];W[cq]
C[Pass val -3.9, best val 27.4
];B[pq];W[cc]
C[Pass val -2.2, best val 44.8
];B[oc];W[id]
C[Pass val -21.4, best val 26.7
];B[kc];W[ci]
C[Pass val -13.7, best val 30.6
]
;B[dp];W[kq]
C[Pass val -16.4, best val 24.6
];B[eo];W[pj]
C[Pass val -8.0, best val 22.3
];B[gc];W[ke]
C[Pass val -24.2, best val 17.6
];B[dq];W[md]
C[Pass val -1.3, best val 29.5
];B[mc];W[od]
C[Pass val -10.2, best val 33.6
]
;B[pc];W[me]
C[Pass val -25.5, best val 20.5
];B[hq];W[jq]
C[Pass val -21.1, best val 33.4
];B[cm];W[oe]
C[Pass val -4.5, best val 28.8
];B[pf];W[kd]
C[Pass val 7.2, best val 56.0
];B[ib];W[ic]
C[Pass val 1.7, best val 47.6
]
;B[ec];W[dc]
C[Pass val 13.1, best val 47.6
];B[ge];W[ie]
C[Pass val 21.2, best val 63.7
];B[gg];W[gd]
C[Pass val 23.0, best val 99.3
];B[fd];W[gb]
C[Pass val 25.1, best val 69.9
];B[mq];W[if]
C[Pass val 52.6, best val 85.9
]
;B[jo];W[kb]
C[Pass val 57.7, best val 99.9
];B[cf];W[lc]
C[Pass val 77.7, best val 113.4
];B[qo];W[ch]
C[Pass val 78.5, best val 127.4
];B[hh];W[eg]
C[Pass val 82.0, best val 105.9
];B[de];W[ee]
C[Pass val 71.1, best val 124.7
]
;B[hb];W[gf]
C[Pass val 71.3, best val 122.1
];B[hd];W[jc]
C[Pass val 85.8, best val 123.7
];B[ef];W[ei]
C[Pass val 84.8, best val 123.9
];B[db];W[eh]
C[Pass val 122.8, best val 155.9
];B[ff];W[hf]
C[Pass val 110.6, best val 141.2
]
;B[jh];W[gh]
C[Pass val 111.4, best val 147.8
];B[fg];W[gi]
C[Pass val 108.7, best val 143.6
];B[hg];W[qb]
C[Pass val 122.4, best val 185.3
];B[qh];W[qj]
C[Pass val 123.9, best val 154.2
];B[lp];W[kg]
C[Pass val 127.9, best val 157.9
]
;B[ql];W[ck]
C[Pass val 124.8, best val 142.1
];B[nj];W[em]
C[Pass val 119.2, best val 156.8
];B[dn];W[cg]
C[Pass val 124.1, best val 151.6
];B[oi];W[ho]
C[Pass val 113.7, best val 153.4
];B[ip];W[fo]
C[Pass val 110.1, best val 150.0
]
;B[fq];W[gn]
C[Pass val 121.9, best val 145.4
];B[jm];W[fp]
C[Pass val 127.0, best val 149.9
];B[iq];W[hp]
C[Pass val 128.5, best val 151.0
];B[ln];W[nq]
C[Pass val 98.1, best val 165.3
];B[np];W[jn]
C[Pass val 129.1, best val 180.8
]
;B[in];W[lo]
C[Pass val 130.7, best val 187.8
];B[mo];W[jg]
C[Pass val 131.7, best val 151.0
];B[hi];W[gl]
C[Pass val 134.1, best val 154.5
];B[mb];W[el]
C[Pass val 139.8, best val 156.1
];B[cb];W[jj]
C[Pass val 146.4, best val 163.4
]
;B[nl];W[ll]
C[Pass val 141.2, best val 159.4
];B[li];W[ji]
C[Pass val 144.4, best val 181.3
];B[kh];W[lj]
C[Pass val 155.7, best val 180.4
];B[ih];W[nk]
C[Pass val 154.0, best val 174.3
];B[ok];W[mk]
C[Pass val 147.7, best val 184.7
]
;B[ik];W[im]
C[Pass val 131.5, best val 183.2
];B[jl];W[lm]
C[Pass val 159.3, best val 185.0
];B[kn];W[nn]
C[Pass val 147.4, best val 173.0
];B[pn];W[pp]
C[Pass val 163.4, best val 174.4
];B[hj];W[jk]
C[Pass val 164.4, best val 188.1
]
;B[ki];W[no]
C[Pass val 164.9, best val 183.4
];B[oq];W[nr]
C[Pass val 166.1, best val 180.0
];B[bf];W[po]
C[Pass val 176.4, best val 186.2
];B[ai];W[mg]
C[Pass val 174.0, best val 203.3
];B[mi];W[nm]
C[Pass val 169.1, best val 212.3
]
;B[ol];W[oh]
C[Pass val 168.8, best val 187.0
];B[pi];W[mh]
C[Pass val 168.7, best val 180.3
];B[oj];W[og]
C[Pass val 155.2, best val 177.9
];B[ak];W[cl]
C[Pass val 153.0, best val 177.4
];B[ag];W[rq]
C[Pass val 151.8, best val 207.3
]
;B[op];W[qq]
C[Pass val 165.5, best val 181.3
];B[qr];W[eb]
C[Pass val 167.1, best val 187.2
];B[ea];W[qf]
C[Pass val 131.3, best val 198.9
];B[rf];W[rh]
C[Pass val 165.1, best val 190.8
];B[ri];W[rd]
C[Pass val 165.6, best val 205.8
]
;B[qe];W[rb]
C[Pass val 153.5, best val 189.8
];B[qc];W[ro]
C[Pass val 127.7, best val 201.8
];B[rn];W[hl]
C[Pass val 165.1, best val 178.3
];B[pb];W[rl]
C[Pass val 170.8, best val 180.8
];B[bm];W[qm]
C[Pass val 140.4, best val 232.0
]
;B[rm];W[rj]
C[Pass val 164.1, best val 199.5
];B[qi];W[pl]
C[Pass val 167.6, best val 188.7
];B[rg];W[qk]
C[Pass val 105.4, best val 221.1
];B[qn];W[bn]
C[Pass val 146.0, best val 182.1
];B[bo];W[bq]
C[Pass val 161.0, best val 193.1
]
;B[cr];W[co]
C[Pass val 172.4, best val 204.6
];B[bp];W[do]
C[Pass val 176.2, best val 198.4
];B[cp];W[eq]
C[Pass val 167.3, best val 194.5
];B[er];W[ep]
C[Pass val 168.3, best val 186.4
];B[pm];W[gq]
C[Pass val 160.6, best val 177.2
]
;B[fr];W[gr]
C[Pass val 162.8, best val 177.8
];B[en];W[or]
C[Pass val 110.2, best val 185.5
];B[pr];W[nb]
C[Pass val 152.9, best val 199.9
];B[nc];W[bd]
C[Pass val 169.4, best val 182.4
];B[hr];W[gj]
C[Pass val 168.7, best val 178.8
]
;B[qp];W[oo]
C[Pass val 166.1, best val 180.7
];B[mm];W[bb]
C[Pass val 115.0, best val 180.4
];B[ga];W[be]
C[Pass val 150.4, best val 190.7
];B[dd];W[ir]
C[Pass val 160.2, best val 180.1
];B[jr];W[lq]
C[Pass val 128.4, best val 227.1
]
;B[ml];W[jp]
C[Pass val 167.4, best val 202.0
];B[gs];W[gp]
C[Pass val 170.5, best val 177.7
];B[ba];W[kl]
C[Pass val 170.5, best val 186.4
];B[kj];W[rc]
C[Pass val 168.8, best val 183.2
];B[sb];W[bj]
C[Pass val 167.6, best val 178.2
]
;B[kk];W[rr]
C[Pass val 167.6, best val 175.7
];B[rp];W[pd]
C[Pass val 163.7, best val 173.3
];B[qa];W[re]
C[Pass val 166.0, best val 184.0
];B[se];W[pg]
C[Pass val 159.2, best val 184.2
];B[ra];W[qg]
C[Pass val 158.0, best val 169.1
]
;B[pe];W[lg]
C[Pass val 163.9, best val 170.7
];B[aj];W[br]
C[Pass val 164.8, best val 174.8
];B[aq];W[om]
C[Pass val 162.8, best val 180.7
];B[mn];W[io]
C[Pass val 122.4, best val 200.7
];B[hs];W[kr]
C[Pass val 148.7, best val 178.0
]
;B[is];W[hk]
C[Pass val 157.8, best val 167.5
];B[mr];W[dg]
C[Pass val 159.9, best val 167.5
];B[ae];W[df]
C[Pass val 159.4, best val 165.2
];B[fn];W[fl]
C[Pass val 160.9, best val 197.4
];B[hn];W[hc]
C[Pass val 172.4, best val 188.8
]
;B[gm];W[dm]
C[Pass val 183.9, best val 188.7
];B[cd];W[bc]
C[Pass val 179.7, best val 213.5
];B[ce];W[pa]
C[Pass val 151.6, best val 231.6
];B[oa];W[ma]
C[Pass val 179.2, best val 200.0
];B[la];W[nh]
C[Pass val 182.9, best val 187.9
]
;B[ka];W[ia]
C[Pass val 181.2, best val 198.8
];B[jb];W[bg]
C[Pass val 183.2, best val 194.6
];B[bh];W[am]
C[Pass val 177.7, best val 199.3
];B[bl];W[sn]
C[Pass val 189.3, best val 195.9
];B[sp];W[si]
C[Pass val 180.0, best val 219.0
]
;B[sh];W[sj]
C[Pass val 189.1, best val 204.2
];B[pk];W[ql]
C[Pass val 189.6, best val 202.0
];B[sl]
C[Pass val 189.6, best val 202.0
Opponent crashed with a stack overflow.
Many Faces is ahead by 192.5
])