Re: [computer-go] question regarding Hydra Chess Supercomputer

[Suciu Flavius <sf_suciu@xxxxxxxxx>]

thanks for the answers, but one still missing:
How many nodes per second are evaluating Hydra? ;)
Or it's a secret?

And sorry for the spelling error, not price but Hydra
priZe from the website.. it's a position and you must
tell in how many moves Hydra can give a checkmate...

Yes, for sure, the human team was very unmotivated.
I think "winner team take all money" should motivate
the humans more ;)

For sure it was a marketing ideea, but Fritz anyway
it's a very strong program...

Regards.




--- chrilly <chrilly@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> >
> >as far I understand, maybe I'm wrong, you're one of
> >the Hydra author.
> I am the principial author.
> 
> >How are you commenting the final position in the
> first
> >Man vs Machine World Championship from Bilbao...
> >
> The humans were too weak. The games were already
> very loopsided.  One reason
> was, that they took the games not very serious. Did
> no preparation. Or to
> say it more directly: They were just there to cash
> in money.
> GM Topalov did then at least his best to defend his
> "honour". GM Ponomariov
> and the boy Karjakin just played their games.
> But another reason is: The top programms and
> especially Hydra are simply
> stronger. We (and also Frans Morsch) knew this
> beforehand. Playing with the
> notebook was therefore  a very clever marketing
> strategy for Fritz. The next
> step is playing on a mobile.
> 
> >How it's possible that Fritz running on 1,3 GHz
> laptop
> >achieve the same result with the monstrous Hydra
> >supercomputer?
> Mathias Feist of Fritz said: 3.5 out of 4.0 is
> difficult to beat.
> The current version played 8 games against strong
> GMs and made 6 wins, 2
> draws additionally it won 5.5 to 2.5 against
> Shredder. The Elo-score of this
> games would be around 2950.
> I think it is difficult to come over 3000, because
> if someone plays 1.d4 and
> plays only for a draw, it is difficult to win with
> black. Especially against
> humans we have to find more active openings.
> 
> In the Topalov game the reason for the lucky draw
> was: We were out of book
> after the 2nd move and Hydra made some serious
> positional mistakes in the
> opening/early middlegame phase. Topalov  said
> afterwards, that he would have
> certainly won the game against any other human. One
> can not give an opponent
> more "gifts" than we did in this game. But if even
> this is not sufficient
> for them to win with white, one has to think about
> handicaps.
> 
> For Fritz there was also some "surprise" moment.
> Fritz is for most players
> the best known "chessplayer". The new version 9
> plays different (I assume
> also somewhat better). Topalov was e.g. completly
> shocked, that Fritz plays
> now different.
> 
> >Btw, what's the Hydra price? A nice T-Short? ;)
> Hydra has like "Mona Lisa" no price.
> 
> Chrilly
> 
> 
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