Re: [computer-go] future KGS Computer Go Tournaments - two sections?

[John Davies <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I still think this is a good idea ;-) but would like to suggest a
further refinement which might be a step too far:

In the 'serious/original/trusted origin' division, what I'd find very
useful would be the option of entering with a handicap or on 'scratch'.
Obviously, the actual tournament winner would be the best performing
'scratch' program to prevent ill-founded commercial boasting, but it
would make for better matches and allow programs to measure their
strength against the big boys (or girls!).

That way, MFOG could be given a 10 stones head start and compete on even
terms with the next generation Dumbbot when I finish it ;-)

Would that be possible?

JD

PS  Not really, David!

On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 14:11 +0100, Nick Wedd wrote:
> I would like to hear your views on something which was proposed in 
> discussion during yesterday's KGS Computer Go Tournament.
> 
> The proposal is to run future such events as two "divisions", with 
> admission to the "upper" division being more tightly controlled.
> 
> On one hand, I want to take reasonable steps to deter cheating.  I also 
> want to avoid clones of GNU Go, and programs which use GNU Go code to 
> select their moves.  Both require that I should know something about the 
> bot, and preferably also about its creator.  Specifically, if a bot _is_ 
> found to be cheating, I would like to be able to name and shame the 
> person responsible, and I can only do this if I know his real name.
> 
> On the other hand, I would like the tournaments to be fun for as many 
> people as possible.  I would therefore like to be able to admit 
> metamachines that use GNUGo code, modified GNUGo clones, and anonymous 
> entries.
> 
> By having two divisions, I could achieve both.  The upper division would 
> be restricted to what I was convinced was original code from known 
> individuals.  The lower division would be open to all, or almost all.  I 
> believe that there is not technical obstacle to this;  as far as KGS is 
> concerned there would be two distinct but simultaneous tournaments.
> 
> What do people think?
> 
> Nick

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