Re: [computer-go] future KGS Computer Go Tournaments - two sections?

["Vlad Dumitrescu" <vlad_dumitrescu@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

From: "Don Dailey" <drd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> This whole business of clones and similar programs is REALLY
> about AUTHORSHIP.  [...]
> For instance, I have more than one Go program, and they use different
> algorithms.  They don't just use different algorithms, they didn't
> even start life as the same piece of code.  [...]
> But why can't I enter several of these programs in competition?  The
> similarity between any 2 of these is FAR less than the similarity
> between SlugGo and GnuGo.

> The answer is authorship.  As David and others have pointed out, it's
> grossly unfair to let me or anyone else have several programs
> represented in a single tournamnt.

I am sorry if by asking this means I'm one of those that don't think
clearly. Confused I am, that I agree :-)

First, I don't recall anyone else saying anything about authorship as the
discriminant feature. I think your two different programs should always be
allowed to enter the same competition (of course, there is the issue of
trusting you when you say they are different, but that is a separate issue)

Going with this to the extreme, it means any of your programs can't compete
together with GnuGo, because you're an author to all of them!? What if any
other GnuGo developers decides to start from scratch with a new program,
completely different than GnuGo -- should these two programs never be able
to meet in a tournament?

For me this is like saying that only one of Kato Masao, Otake Hideo,
Takemiya Masaki and Cho Chikun (to name just a few) should have been allowed
to enter a tournament, because they have all been studying at Kitani
Minoru's school.

regards,
Vlad

P.S. To further confuse the matter, what about a go program that learns,
without any tactical or strategic modules, just raw learning from games
played and replayed. I know it's not very practical now, but maybe MoyoGo
will get playing abilities soon.

Should two such programs developed separately by two different teams be
allowed in the same tournament?
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