Re: [computer-go] future KGS Computer Go Tournaments - two sections?

[Christian Nilsson <christian.nilsson@xxxxxxxxx>]

I'd say let SlugGo and GoFigure play in the "normal" tournaments too,
they appear stronger than regular GnuGo, so why not? I would
personally love to see more strong programs in these tournaments.

Oh, btw, I assume you mean DaftBot and not DumbBot.

/Christian Nilsson

On 5/9/05, Nick Wedd <nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> In message <2100faf0b21a432f4492db06fb21ec23@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, David G Doshay
> <ddoshay@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes
> >
> >On 9, May 2005, at 12:22 PM, Nick Wedd wrote:
> >
> >> As for "formal" and "casual" divisions - I have had two votes for
> >>(David Fotland and John Davies), and one against (delivered
> >>privately).  Any more votes?
> >
> >As the driving force behind SlugGo I would like to chime in, but I do
> >not yet understand some details about what you are proposing.
> >
> >SlugGo is clearly a program that uses GNU Go to generate move choices,
> >adding global lookahead that GNU Go does not do and including some
> >additional evaluation that GNU Go does not do. Where would we sit in
> >your proposed divisions?
> 
> I would like to see SlugGo playing in KGS tournaments, but I'm sorry, I
> won't be able to let it play in a "formal" division.  Or indeed, if we
> decide not to split the tournaments into divisions, to let it play at
> all in regular tournaments.  The same goes, in future, for the weaker
> GoFigure, and the much weaker DumbBot, two other "metaprograms" that use
> GNUGo, in various ways, for move generation.
> 
> But I would like to see SlugGo (and GoFigure, and DumbBot) playing on
> KGS.  I am sure people would like to watch it playing.  One possibility
> is to have them play in a "casual" division.  I don't know how you would
> feel about that, SlugGo won't get much of a challenge from the other
> players in the lower division.
> 
> Another possibility is to have a "slow" tournament.  The opponents that
> don't like playing against GNUGo derivatives would realise that a slow
> tournament was likely to attract SlugGo, and know to avoid it.  Can you
> remind me, what are the fastest time limits that SlugGo would be happy
> with?
> 
> Of course, if you wish you can let SlugGo play as a bot on KGS, outside
> a tournament, accepting challenges from allcomers.
> 
> Nick
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